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 Old 05-27-2015, 09:26 PM   #1
 
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Default Freek OTS or full tune

Hay all I have freek ots map right now I need to retune because I added a ets tmic now I have the option to upgrade to a full tune for a little more just not sure if it's really worth it at my mod level I have catless turbo back mazdaspeed cai and tih and internals would a full tune make much of a diffrence at this point
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A full tune is always worth it. Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't what you payed toward the OTS get discounted off of the full tune?
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Short answer, probably will see benefits...
Long answer, depends if you want anything changed from the OTS... Such as power coming on later, detuned 1st and 2nd etc...
You'll probably get some more power, but how much extra, it's hard to say, depends on your fuel
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Ya it's ether 75 for retune or 125 to upgrade to a full tune
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If you don't plan on doing any more major upgrades any time soon just get the full tune..Yes there will be a difference.
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about customizing the tune I really wouldent do that IDE just go with his recommendations because I don't really know that much about it. Also with fuel corn would be cool but I keep reading that it's nasty shit and clogs our fuel pumps up

Yeah from where I sit now like I don't see myself upgrading any further I think after this all I really have left is big turbo
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about customizing the tune I really wouldent do that IDE just go with his recommendations because I don't really know that much about it. Also with fuel corn would be cool but I keep reading that it's nasty shit and clogs our fuel pumps up
You obviously need to read more and donate because you must be getting you info from 247.
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For your level of mods get the full tune. Its a $50 difference and it is definitely worth it. Don't know much about e85 so cant help you there
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worth it... to me. depends on what you really want from the car.
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Ya maybe that is true need to start using search here on the fourm over Google. might get better results
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Why did you upgrading the TMIC? Have you read about them and how they heat soak which means you lose power. I would do some more research and sell the TMIC and go with the FMIC if you don't have enough then save up.

Back to the original question, yes get the full tune. The guys on here tought me a great lesson that i will not forget. Your car is only as goid as the tune.
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Why did you upgrading the TMIC? Have you read about them and how they heat soak which means you lose power. I would do some more research and sell the TMIC and go with the FMIC if you don't have enough then save up.

Back to the original question, yes get the full tune. The guys on here tought me a great lesson that i will not forget. Your car is only as goid as the tune.


This has been pointed out on MANY threads. People upgrade TMIC's because it's cheaper, easier, and just as good (with meth)

I have a corksport TMIC, with Meth, and my spool and throttle response are much better, my BAT's are cooler then those with just a FMIC (and obviously the same as those with a FMIC and meth) and it just generally looks better under the hood (no seeing loads of rat nest wires)

The price you pay for a decent FMIC, you can buy a TMIC with meth.. But in the end, it's all personal preference.

As for OP. As others have said. If your leaving your car that way for a while, go full tune. If not, mod away and then full tune.
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Yeah I have no intentions of getting a front mount I would like to keep my hood scoop functional with my ets I literally stay 15° Above ambient temperature when boosting so it seems to work well a hell of a lot better then stock also yes when stopped it does heat soak bad but I would think so would a fmic
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Why did you upgrading the TMIC? Have you read about them and how they heat soak which means you lose power. I would do some more research and sell the TMIC and go with the FMIC if you don't have enough then save up.

Back to the original question, yes get the full tune. The guys on here tought me a great lesson that i will not forget. Your car is only as goid as the tune.
Lots of decent HP cars still running upgraded top mounts. Upgraded top mounts have been more then once proven that it will lower boost temps. Don't believe everything you hear..

I have a COBB front mount and by boost temps get higher then a few people I know on upgraded top mounts..
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