BIG TURBO: What do you need?

[Ziggo]

Sometimes that extra power doesn't get used because the turbo isn't responsive enough to spool up before you need to be braking for the next turn, where a smaller turbo would have been at full power (abet less than full capability of the larger) sooner/longer. It's the same principle as power under the curve.

Though I don't expect most of the straight line monkeys to understand that, just look to the forum wars. Even if the driver had not been a noob, the civic never had a chance in the autocross because his turbo never had a chance to spool.


Zigatapatalka

[dsmluck]

Originally Posted by Ziggo Sometimes that extra power doesn't get used because the turbo isn't responsive enough to spool up before you need to be braking for the next turn, where a smaller turbo would have been at full power (abet less than full capability of the larger) sooner/longer. It's the same principle as power under the curve. Though I don't expect most of the straight line monkeys to understand that, just look to the forum wars. Even if the driver had not been a noob, the civic never had a chance in the autocross because his turbo never had a chance to spool. Zigatapatalka

How are you going to compare that pile of shit civic to a Mazdaspeed with a 30 series? How many BT speeds have your driven? Sure it takes longer to reach full spool but the power delivery is linear. I find it easier to modulate power out of a corner with the 3076 than the K04. If you keep the ATP turbos in the proper power band they spool extremely quick.

Originally Posted by eric@edgeautosport Well it is fairly easy imo to tell when your seals go bad so anyone choosing to run on bad seals that is their own problem. I was over 320whp for a year b4 BT and still on my stock seals with my BT and have been completely fine.

I have a few thousand miles on my BT and I have not seen any knock from bad seals. I will keep rocking the stock ones until I see a problem crop up.

Originally Posted by letsfightrobbb Im gonna go with everyone should replace the coolant return line as mine bursted on my test drive after install with no boost. A few NATOR NM guys have had their coolant lines burst too. This is the stuff we are using Reinforced Hose

Why did the line explode?

[frivolous_rob]

Mine was install error lol plus 70k on the line anyways. Had some kinks i missed and coolant back up n just burst and spewed everywhere.

[Ziggo]

Originally Posted by dsmluck How are you going to compare that pile of shit civic to a Mazdaspeed with a 30 series? How many BT speeds have your driven? Sure it takes longer to reach full spool but the power delivery is linear. I find it easier to modulate power out of a corner with the 3076 than the K04. If you keep the ATP turbos in the proper power band they spool extremely quick.

How many tracks\autocross courses have you driven?

[dsmluck]

Originally Posted by Ziggo How many tracks\autocross courses have you driven?

I have driven High Plains Raceway in my K04 equipped MS3. The BT has only been in a few weeks but I will take it out there again when I get the chance. I have however taken the car with the 3076r through numerous canyon runs since I am right outside Boulder, CO. I personally enjoyed the car more with the 3076r over the K04 on the same roads and feel its MUCH easier to drive faster.

I have no desire to autocross especially after driving on a proper road course. Not dissing people who do its just not my cup of tea.

Again I ask you when have your driven a ms3/ms6 with a 30 series on a road course or a an autocross? If you haven't then how can you say that they are rubbish?

Originally Posted by frodaddyweez They'll also need to somehow extend the hotpipe since the outlet on the big turbos sits lower than stock. And a boost gauge

I didn't have to extend it. Granted the PG piping kit is sub-par but it still fit without touching any part of the block. Just sat lower.