BNR stage 3 turbo

[Dre]

bump for prices!

[8.5MS3]

i sent an email to brian yesterday about stage 3 since mine started smoking:

Hey Michael.

The stage 3 won't be released for a long while. I have other projects to complete before I have a batch of 2871 wheels custom made. It will take some time before I can focus on the stage 3 for the MS cars. The stage 2 is available. Let me know if you have any questions!

Bryan@BNR

[Dre]

sucks about your turbo smoking bro.. go with stage 2 while you can.. im sure you can re-coop most of your money by selling the stage 2 turbo once the 3's are out..

[TRex]

ok so what exactly needs to be changed...ive heard everyone saying it is a direct bolt up but many have been changing their manifolds...is that necessary or are you just doing it while you are in there?....or (if you wanted) could you run everything you already have?

i see these as being great because all of the supporting mods that fit the k04 (DP, inlet, intake (set up for stock turbo)) will connect right up to these hybrids...or am i wrong?

[Alpha]

Originally Posted by TRex ok so what exactly needs to be changed...ive heard everyone saying it is a direct bolt up but many have been changing their manifolds...is that necessary or are you just doing it while you are in there?....or (if you wanted) could you run everything you already have? i see these as being great because all of the supporting mods that fit the k04 (DP, inlet, intake (set up for stock turbo)) will connect right up to these hybrids...or am i wrong?

Yes, yes, and yes.

[TRex]

so it isnt necessary it is just a good thing to do

i could run it completely stock

all supporting mods that fit the k04 will fit these hybrids


great...really i would pay the extra money to save the headache...plus i wont have to re buy my mods for the bigger turbo

[Alpha]

Originally Posted by TRex so it isnt necessary it is just a good thing to do i could run it completely stock all supporting mods that fit the k04 will fit these hybrids great...really i would pay the extra money to save the headache...plus i wont have to re buy my mods for the bigger turbo

Exaclty. Granted, added a DP and TM at the time of the install is the best way to go, but if you're on a budget you can run it on stock parts.

[Dre]

i thought the stg2 and stg3 turbos have the 3" inlet, so you'd have to get cp-e's bigger inlet aka whale penis.. or am i wrong?

[Alpha]

Originally Posted by Dre i thought the stg2 and stg3 turbos have the 3" inlet, so you'd have to get cp-e's bigger inlet aka whale penis.. or am i wrong?

Stage 2 and 3 come with a 2.5" inlet so you'd need a coupler based TIP/SRI.

[Dre]

thanks bro.. for some reason i thought they were 3" inlets..

[TRex]

Originally Posted by Dre i thought the stg2 and stg3 turbos have the 3" inlet, so you'd have to get cp-e's bigger inlet aka whale penis.. or am i wrong?

CPE big turbo connection for the nvicid is 4 in. anyway

if you have a the SRI right now when you orded the nvicid you would just pick stock turbo flange and 3 in. intake

[Dre]

already have the inlet pipe.. stg2 sounds like its chock full of win

[Superstretch18]

When I spoke with Bryan, he said that he could machine the stage 2 inlet to any size that you wanted (stock or larger). I'd ask him about your particulars. He answers emails quickly...

[Flightmedic]

If you have the cobb TIP it fits fine

[DSIT995]

I gotta talk to bryan bout the inlet size, it seems that a larger one would be better, and get a reducer and cut my cobb tip down to size.

Glad to see these turbos are gettin more posts, I think where are goin to see some nice #'s in the near furure

[zx2man]

Yeah...cant wait...just got a email from Bryan..and he said prabaly another couple months..Hes a busy guy....Im trying to decide on the stage 3 or go 3071. Im stock internals and honestly 350-370 whp would be perfect for my car.

[Dre]

yea i cant believe more people arent looking into this option..

[xcoldricex]

probably because it's so expensive?

[Dre]

i dont think it is.. considering you dont have to purchase mani's and ewg's etc..

[taf0422]

very interesting...i'll have to keep my eye on this thread to see how things turn out with the stage 3 turbos...that way I can just put this and a DP on at the sametime

[the_caruch]

I've also been keeping an eye on these turbo's. The stage 2 looks great. Maybe i can hold off until stage 3 comes out.

When I spoke with Bryan, he said that he could machine the stage 2 inlet to any size that you wanted (stock or larger). I'd ask him about your particulars. He answers emails quickly...

It's nice to know he can machine the inlet to whatever size!

[TRex]

i would figure you would have him take it just 3" am i right?

i dont really see the point in having a full 3" intake (like what you get with a nano and nvicid) but still restrict it down to 2.5" at the turbo

[zx2man]

Originally Posted by TRex i would figure you would have him take it just 3" am i right? i dont really see the point in having a full 3" intake (like what you get with a nano and nvicid) but still restrict it down to 2.5" at the turbo

Yeah......was always alittle carious about that myself.

[xcoldricex]

Originally Posted by Dre i dont think it is.. considering you dont have to purchase mani's and ewg's etc..

well comparing it to the other sst's they're quite a bit more expensive. you can also get the atp turbos that apparently do not have boost creep issues anymore for a couple hundred more. these seem to be another step between sst's and bt's - hopefully they perform well, they do look promising! i unfortunately never had the chance to push my sst, just when i was ready to turn up the boost it crapped out on me.

[Dre]

Originally Posted by xcoldricex well comparing it to the other sst's they're quite a bit more expensive. you can also get the atp turbos that apparently do not have boost creep issues anymore for a couple hundred more. these seem to be another step between sst's and bt's - hopefully they perform well, they do look promising! i unfortunately never had the chance to push my sst, just when i was ready to turn up the boost it crapped out on me.

thus them being cheaper than the bnr's..

[triplejumper18]

Stage 15 turbo

[Dre]

is it Plug n Play?

[8.5MS3]

That'll be good for 420whp tops

[Alpha]

Originally Posted by triplejumper18 Stage 15 turbo

Looks like a Procharger.

[triplejumper18]

Originally Posted by Alpha Looks like a Procharger.

Yeah I guess it's a brand new one.

[Flightmedic]

that thing must spool at 6000

[cld12pk2go]

Originally Posted by xcoldricex well comparing it to the other sst's they're quite a bit more expensive. you can also get the atp turbos that apparently do not have boost creep issues anymore for a couple hundred more. these seem to be another step between sst's and bt's - hopefully they perform well, they do look promising! i unfortunately never had the chance to push my sst, just when i was ready to turn up the boost it crapped out on me.

These really don't compare to the SST or other KO4 rebuilds.

These should be compared to a GT28, except that they are plug and play and much cheaper.

[xcoldricex]

Originally Posted by Dre thus them being cheaper than the bnr's..

and how do you know how reliable these will be? my sst ran for 2 years. how long has the longest bnr been on a ms3/ms6 now?

Originally Posted by cld12pk2go These really don't compare to the SST or other KO4 rebuilds. These should be compared to a GT28, except that they are plug and play and much cheaper.

yes, that's why i said they were a step above the sst's and other k04 rebuilds... but how much is a stage 3 going to cost? probably not that much cheaper than a plug and play atp 2871r, especially if you get one on here or from a vendor. i'm not hating on these, i'm curious how good they will be, but i don't really see these as being a great deal right now.

[FORZDA 1]

Originally Posted by xcoldricex and how do you know how reliable these will be? my sst ran for 2 years. how long has the longest bnr been on a ms3/ms6 now?........

Basically, the whole turbo is made from parts that are already proven for decades. The CHRA is the original disco-potato unit (do a web search) that does NOT leak/smoke and the compressor wheels are standard parts right from Garrett. The compressor housings are from the old RX-7 version turbo and the turbine housing are OEM K04, so the only thing special about the BNR turbos is the combination of proven parts, the absolute OEM plug & play, and the capacity to produce seriously more (2871 ATP levels) power with NO hassles for less $$$.

I'll hit the dyno when I get around to installing my Stage 3 with the 2871 compressor side.

[xcoldricex]

thanks for all the info, sounds great! how'd you get a stage 3, are you testing one?

[FORZDA 1]

Originally Posted by xcoldricex thanks for all the info, sounds great! how'd you get a stage 3, are you testing one?

No, when Bryan announced the Stage 3 version and he only had two of the 2871 compressor wheels for the stage 3 version I jumped on it immediately and someone else got the other one. So there are two of the stage 3 versions until Bryan can get more compressor wheels. According to him, Garrett has stopped selling the parts, so....

He posts and replies to questions in this thread over on 6club.

Mazdaspeed 3/6 K04 Hybrid turbocharger 330WHP!!! - Page 63 - Mazda 6 Forums : Mazda 6 / Mazda Atenza Forum

[DSIT995]

Forzda, what are u going to do about tuning, are u going to get a dyno/custom tune, e-tune, or are u going to tune urself via ATR?

I dont have my turbo yet, but just trying to plan ahead. I wan to run my Grimmspeed EBCS(not installed yet) with my BNR and I got a feeling that this is going to exceed MY ability to tune w/ ATR. (can handle basics FT, TRL's ect)

Just curious on t he route ur going, thanks

[FORZDA 1]

Originally Posted by DSIT995 Forzda, what are u going to do about tuning, are u going to get a dyno/custom tune, e-tune, or are u going to tune urself via ATR? I dont have my turbo yet, but just trying to plan ahead. I wan to run my Grimmspeed EBCS(not installed yet) with my BNR and I got a feeling that this is going to exceed MY ability to tune w/ ATR. (can handle basics FT, TRL's ect) Just curious on t he route ur going, thanks

I'm definitely doing a self-tune via ATR until I like it... then check it on a dyno to see what it makes. I'll pass on any "new" info that may come from it as well.

[freekwonder]

OH I want stage 2, should be good enough for me on a DD, a bit over 300 horse to the wheels and I'd be happy.

[DSIT995]

Originally Posted by FORZDA 1 I'm definitely doing a self-tune via ATR until I like it... then check it on a dyno to see what it makes. I'll pass on any "new" info that may come from it as well.

I'd like to see ur tune when its finished......

doh, u gotta 6, i guess if u put the tables in excel i could still see them