Cheap Jew Big turbo build

[86AmishMs3]

Jewing my way to 400+whp

Was going to originally go with a gtx with atp hotside. But work bonuses are no longer that big at work. So bought the turbo used (buyer said roughly 5k miles) and jewed out on other things to save money. All in all all parts were bought for under 1500 total. I figured if I went the route i was going (gtx with ATP hotside) would have been closer to 2300. 800 dollars that can be spent on hookers and blow. Would have been cheaper if I decided to stay stock intake. But decided to open that up.


Parts:
GT3076 ATP IWG hotside (came with: Coolant in line, low profile oil feed banjo, coolant return barbed banjo fitting)
Treadstone 3" maf
Treadstone 2" silicon hose and 2" coupler (will be coupled to ets tmic)
2x Treadstone garrett/efr 10an drain flanges (much cheaper then ATP with integrated
gasket and no need for step down studs)
10an drain line lubed with doubleflusher's man juice
Silicon intakes 3" 45 degree elbow
HTP 3" turbo inlet with 3" to 4" reducer (not picture being fabbed)
Various tbolt and worm clamps, new crush washers, studs
Hallman Pro RX boost controller in homo purple
3 bar map still needs to be ordered

Everything


GT3076



Decided to do a little porting to the flapper area with a dynafile and some rotary grinding stones.
Inside the turbine housing



Flapper side with half moon bit of metal taken out and smoothed the transition greatly



Once I get my TIP in I'll start getting ready for the build and snapping some pics along the way to hopefully help anybody else going the bolt on route. Not that it hasn't been done before.

[kritz]

In for build pics.

[Chimmike]

you say you're staying TMIC?

i'd use that $800 put aside for hookers and blow and get fmic.

[mzr0818]

Looks good.

[irishking03]

3076 should put you in the 450 range shouldnt it.

[ColonR]

Your gunna need a 21/2 to 2in reducer piece of silicone for the inter cooler hot pipe from your Turbo

[86AmishMs3]

Originally Posted by chimmike you say you're staying TMIC? i'd use that $800 put aside for hookers and blow and get fmic.

All in time. With around 550in3 of area the ets falls somewhere in between a tr6 and tr8 core size. The ets is no slouch when it comes to size. Not like i'm running a cx racing fmic with a puny core.

Originally Posted by coltonR Your gunna need a 21/2 to 2in reducer piece of silicone for the inter cooler hot pipe from your Turbo

Negative, tmic is a 2" coupler.

[Scribbles]

Shit, finally. You've been talking about this forever. We also have the exact same carpet O.o

Congrats on finally getting everything together, 76 wont disappoint you. Let us know if you need help installing this

[spoof3r]

Has anyone really successfully run a TMIC on a BT build? I know I was having major heat soak issues on mine before I even went BT. My tuner told me to not even bother.

Oh well, FMIC look sick anyways! Good luck with the build, man!

[6oost3d]

Looks like my turbo went into the right hands. good luck with the build!

Did you get a tap for the boost source?

[Chimmike]

I'm not concerned about the core size on the ETS, the heatsoak is the problem. FMIC will never heatsoak as much as a TMIC will and will constantly see better flow.

anywho, good luck

[Vansquish]

Originally Posted by 86azms3 Jewing my way to 400+whp

You'll have to excuse me for this. I may be putting myself directly in the line of fire for a bunch of flaming, but just how offensive are you trying to be?

Your build looks like it could be a lot of fun, and I'm glad for the info and pictures, but the way you titled this thread, and the way you're talking about this is incredibly racist, anti-semitic and offensive.

I normally don't take offense to this sort of thing, but I can't understand why you'd even say that you're "Jewing" your way to something (and yes, I do understand what the phrase means).

I hope you can change the title and your post, but if you can't, I hope you at least change the language you use in the future.

[Hamilton69]

slang term....i found it humorous

[bmylez]

Originally Posted by Vansquish You'll have to excuse me for this. I may be putting myself directly in the line of fire for a bunch of flaming, but just how offensive are you trying to be? Your build looks like it could be a lot of fun, and I'm glad for the info and pictures, but the way you titled this thread, and the way you're talking about this is incredibly racist, anti-semitic and offensive. I normally don't take offense to this sort of thing, but I can't understand why you'd even say that you're "Jewing" your way to something (and yes, I do understand what the phrase means). I hope you can change the title and your post, but if you can't, I hope you at least change the language you use in the future.

Surprised you've made it for over 2 years on this site. I don't get offended by all the other racial slurs thrown around 'cause it's all in fun and the majority of people on here don't know the race of the other, so it's just blind joking.

Good luck to ya, OP. Car will be beast mode.

[Dano]

looks like fun....if you are going MBC why get an upgraded MAP?

[jracer]

Good build !
No offended taken . Other dude needs to chill.
We all are Jews when buying parts when money is tight ! Lol

[bmylez]

So he can log boost?

[crazyp]

Originally Posted by bmylez So he can log boost?

agreed, I felt like I was adjusting MBC blind once I went over 23 psi. I dont trust my boost guage really lol

[86AmishMs3]

Originally Posted by Vansquish You'll have to excuse me for this. I may be putting myself directly in the line of fire for a bunch of flaming, but just how offensive are you trying to be? Your build looks like it could be a lot of fun, and I'm glad for the info and pictures, but the way you titled this thread, and the way you're talking about this is incredibly racist, anti-semitic and offensive. I normally don't take offense to this sort of thing, but I can't understand why you'd even say that you're "Jewing" your way to something (and yes, I do understand what the phrase means). I hope you can change the title and your post, but if you can't, I hope you at least change the language you use in the future.

ahahaha this is msf dude. I don't know where you've been. I don't care who gets offended here. You have to take everything with a grain of salt.

Originally Posted by 6oost3d Looks like my turbo went into the right hands. good luck with the build! Did you get a tap for the boost source?

Yeah it got it, just in one of the boxes. Thanks!

Originally Posted by Dano looks like fun....if you are going MBC why get an upgraded MAP?

MAP sensor is cheaper then boost gauge haha. Plus one day i might try ebcs. But for ease of tuning mbc.

[Vansquish]

Originally Posted by 86azms3 ahahaha this is msf dude. I don't know where you've been. I don't care who gets offended here. You have to take everything with a grain of salt.

I do tend to take things with a grain of salt, for some reason, this thread's title just hit me differently. I don't want to derail your thread either.

Back to it, your build looks like it's going to be pretty baller. I hope it turns out well, I'll be watching so I can figure out how I can do my own "cheap" build. Cheers man.

[dougefresh_]

Originally Posted by Dano looks like fun....if you are going MBC why get an upgraded MAP?

Could be good for boost limits fuel cut too.... not that I'd know, lol


Mazel Tov

[86AmishMs3]

Got dissasembled today. Obigatory pics of turbo comparo and then pics of ma intake for the turbo.

Acually turbo install is going smooth. Have the 3076 already on the car to the manifold.

...that Garrett dwarfs the k04... In fact, it looks like it consumed a couple of k04s.

Are you certain this is a "cheap jew" build? It looks more like a "rich protestant" build ().

Potentially derogatory remarks aside, subbed to see the finished installation. Ditto on the Mazel Tov sir.

[86AmishMs3]

Originally Posted by MS3go ...that Garrett dwarfs the k04... In fact, it looks like it consumed a couple of k04s. Are you certain this is a "cheap jew" build? It looks more like a "rich protestant" build(). Potentially derogatory remarks aside, subbed to see the finished installation.

Hahah yeah. But i would call it a fairly cheap build. I mean everything else I saved a lot of money on, and I wanted a quality turbo, not so much on an ebay turbo.

[dooderek]

lol cheap

[dsmluck]

You don't need a FMIC. If I was building a speed again I would go TMIC and Meth. You can still heat soak the pipes on a FMIC so its not immune to engine heat. TMIC is easier to keep from getting boost leaks and its a much shorter path. I ran a CX core with a 50\50 meth setup and the FMIC would heat soak in the summer but as soon as I was in boost the BATs would drop to below ambient. This was on the 3076. I fucking hated the FMIC and would have gladly traded it for a good aftermarket TMIC.

[86AmishMs3]

Ok so turbo installed. A little bit of a bitch, new tune loaded. Running completely off of manual boost control. Having issues building boost, it's tough just to get to 5psi under 5500rpm's, but it starts creeping exponentially at redline, any thoughts. I need to get a log going probably for more assistance, but wonering if any thoughts.

Wastegate is preloaded, and hooked up properly. Acts as if it's open always....

[86AmishMs3]

Just me or does that actuater arm look all the way open

[bmylez]

Unless you have a massive boost leak that somehow fixes itself near redline, I agree with WGA is stuck. I sure hope you don't have to pull the whole turbo to fix that...

[Scribbles]

nator az fail. lol jking. but yea, the arm does look open.

Why stock mani? ffffuuuuuu

[bmylez]

Stock manifold is fine, man. When I finally go gt3076, I'm keeping stock manifold. Make sure you have some sort of turbo bracket or it will stress the manifold too much.

[86AmishMs3]

Originally Posted by bmylez Stock manifold is fine, man. When I finally go gt3076, I'm keeping stock manifold. Make sure you have some sort of turbo bracket or it will stress the manifold too much.

The big heavy cast son of a bitch, i think it should be able to handle the weight of the guy. Well time will tell at least.

[bmylez]

Yes, but what about the flexible portion in the middle? I wouldn't want to put much weight on that. I'm not afraid with stock turbo 'cause it's such a little guy, but a gt3076 weighs a lot more.

[86AmishMs3]

Originally Posted by bmylez Yes, but what about the flexible portion in the middle? I wouldn't want to put much weight on that. I'm not afraid with stock turbo 'cause it's such a little guy, but a gt3076 weighs a lot more.

meh it breaks it breaks, i can have another stocker for cheap. But when you get yours i'll let you know how mine has been holding up .

[86AmishMs3]

Once i get this actuator issue figured out i will start posting logs. But mandatory engine bay shot (no cover on at the moment, and mbc is sitting on the engine) Oh and not pictured chisel in the recirc tube until i get a longer line.

Only big issues I had were removing the manifold, again to get the oil feed on. Too difficult to put the oil feed on the turbo when bolted to the mani. Didn't want to take a chance of crossthreading.

Also the atp supplied oil drain, is far too long. Cut about an inch and a half off. No big deal. Used a banjo nipple bold on coolant out instead of bending the stock line. And also extended the heater hose to get the turbo inlet pipe in.

[86AmishMs3]

Originally Posted by SoAgg159 nator az fail. lol jking. but yea, the arm does look open. Why stock mani? ffffuuuuuu

Flipped the wastegate actuator around. Now i reach spring pressure. Time to start tuning now. thanks @JacksonMS30 and @eric@edgeautosport for your help on this one.

[Scribbles]

Curious how your logs will look. You going part e85?

[86AmishMs3]

Originally Posted by SoAgg159 Curious how your logs will look. You going part e85?

Yep, we'll see how she does on 2.5g and then maybe i'll bump up to 5g. This should help me get a little more agressive. So far this turbo is awesome.

[bmylez]

So if you read Anthony's (driver311) thread, he is a firm believer that using the smallest amount of e85 necessary to get all the KR-prevention benefits is optimal. I know, just someone's opinion, but his car is going nuts with just 4 gal and he never ever has knock. I think his 1/4 mile times speak for themselves

[86AmishMs3]

Originally Posted by bmylez So if you read Anthony's (driver311) thread, he is a firm believer that using the smallest amount of e85 necessary to get all the KR-prevention benefits is optimal. I know, just someone's opinion, but his car is going nuts with just 4 gal and he never ever has knock. I think his 1/4 mile times speak for themselves

definately. I don't want to deal with the same things the 100% e85 guys are dealing with. Just enough to give me knock protection.