the hp and tq limit stock internals ms3

[jayspeed]

i just want to know the hp limit of a mazdaspeed 3 on stock internals with big turbo?

[PunjabiPlaya]

won't know the limit until you break it

[jayspeed]

mmmmmm i think before you break it

[NJSPEED3]

they are good up 538.4whp and 496.2wtq @ 2400rpms give or take a few but yeah! We have seen like 12 different guys replicate this about 24 times.l

[turd burglar]

you sir get a throat chop

[Speed3eak]

People have blown with minimal mods

People are running 400 whp on stock internals, fully bolted + big turbo

The engine is so picky that it depends more on how you drive it + how good your tune is than your level of modifications

You can run a lot, but probably not on a DD + stock turbo

edit: it depends on what kinda torque you want and where - 300 wtq @ 2000 rpm is going to blow a lot sooner than 300 wtq @ 3000 rpm

[Karmat]

Seems like enough people have blown with little or no mods so yeah its pretty unclear on a set limit.

[turd burglar]

donate

[SgtP]

why worry about a limit. build that shit and worry no more.

[bmylez]

'Cause building ain't cheap! Sure, replacing a motor is expensive too, but if as long as he doesn't drive it like he stole it, no problem.

Punching it at over 3k rpm is your friend. No more than half throttle below that.

[regulator84]

About that.

[Amazon]

This thread is gay

[zx2man]

Ill respond because of your Avatar, those rednose Staffordshire terriers are very awesome dogs, but if you plan to come to msf alot more, feel free to donate and be a VIP member.

There really is no #..like its been said before, people have blown with very few mods. from 2007-early 09, alot of people were blowing, now its pretty dam rare, least interms of feedback im seeing on the internet. I believe people are becoming "wiser" and getting fuel pump upgrades and proper tunes to go with all that extra power, and THAT is what is helping alot.

So heres my 2 cents, once you start going semi heavy modding wise=fully bolted, or bigtime=bigturbo..your taking that "chance" that your engine might say fuck you. With a solid parts&tune, that threat goes down but is alwasy still there. IMHO..I would say for daily driver 400 whp max..Iam more scared of tq myself..I think a 400 whp/350wtq is easier on the rods in this long stroke 4 banger, than say a 350 whp/400wtq. Our rods and pistons are forged,pistons will hold out pretty good..rods..meh..their ok..but are kinda thin, so who knows. We got alot of guys running big turbo now and doing fine, but we will just have to see.

When I see someone making 350-450 whp for 50-100k...hundreds of wot pulls, then that will tell me seriously how strong the motor is.

[cld12pk2go]

I personally have been in the 360-400wtq range for roughly a year. So far so good.

Of course a good tune is key.

[OneBAMFpog]

I'd like to hit 400 hp but I'm taking it cautious getting there.

[cld12pk2go]

Originally Posted by KiddMnKy I'd like to hit 400 hp but I'm taking it cautious getting there.

Torque and tune is what you have to be worried about, not HP.

[OneBAMFpog]

That's why I'm being cautious. I'm worried about the tune more than anything because there aren't a lot of tuners around here. I found one that has modded a couple Gen1's but I'd be his first Gen2.

[NJSPEED3]

torque is HP!

Torque kills

[SSinstaller]

7 hp

[BrianZX10R]

i have well over 500 3-5th gear pulls and 10,000 miles with 385whp and 380 tq and have not had a single problem yet

[bmylez]

Originally Posted by BrianGT3076 i have well over 500 3-5th gear pulls and 10,000 miles with 385whp and 380 tq and have not had a single problem yet

Man...our motors suck balls. 20psi on a 3076 and that's all you get? Fuuuu.

Not dissing on your car at all, just saying that even Focuses put down more power on the same boost.

[ScarMS3]

I was going to say 7 but you beat me to it

[AtTheDriveIn]

It's just like asking, "How many pumps can you give a girl until she blows". It depends on a lot of things, man.

[BrianZX10R]

its an old ass cobb tune without new software. its the tune i got in 2009. i have about 400 whp now same tune with diff exhaust housing

[Speed3eak]

http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...5500-ft-73401/

[bmylez]

^^^ Yeah, saw it. That gives me a bit more hope, haha.