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Payne Racing 67 03-01-2012 08:33 AM

The Official Gen 1/2 Mazdaspeed 3 Intercooler Thread
 
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****2015 update thanks to @Inquisitive;*****

Intercooler: TMIC / FMIC for MS6, MS3 (1st and 2nd Gen)

Purpose of TMIC / FMIC

Our air-to-air intercooler (IC) increases the efficiency of the induction system by reducing induction air heat created by our turbocharger resulting in a more dense intake charge, which promotes more thorough combustion.

As you start modifying, you will notice more KR with higher ambient temperatures. This is reduced somewhat by replacing the stock TMIC with a larger TMIC or FMIC. WMI is another way to cool the cylinder temperatures, but that is for another thread.

Three minutes of standing still can raise the IAT by 30 degrees. Increasing IAT by one degree raises BAT by one degree. For every 10 degrees of increase in IAT, you lose 1% of your wheel horsepower. A 75 degree rise from being stuck in traffic is 7.5%. For a 300 WHP, 7.5% is 22.5 HP. Once your vehicle is moving again, it usually takes from 15 to 30 seconds for the IAT to start dropping towards ambient. @MSMS3; )

FMIC are particularly required in hot ambient temperature areas to prevent heat soaking. Note that FMICs lower the boost pressure @rfinkle2; ) and cause some turbo lag (OTC). FMIC provide the coolest source of air for consistent power delivery, typically a 30º F drop, which helps prevents KR to support more HP. However, TMIC are more popular and do not add turbo lag.

See MSF Wiki Glossary for any terms not understood: Glossary - Mazdaspeed Forums Mazdaspeed 3/6 Wikispeedia

Prices are 2015 ball park figures. You may be able to find better deals from various websites. It's up to you to find the best price.

With threads like this it is often asked, “Which is the best?” This is difficult to answer as some consider best quality at any price, personal preference / bragging rights / street cred (popular brand), best value (quality at a good price), popularity (local Nator), cheapest price, etc. Like the Wiki and my other threads, this is just a list in descending Genpu purchased popularity order.

• CP-E TMIC
• CorkSport TMIC
• Extreme Turbo Systems (ETS) Top Mounted Intercooler (TMIC)
• CX Racing (own core now) FMIC
• Treadstone core (TR6 or TR8) plus piping (previously with CX Racing piping) FMIC
• CP-E FMIC
• Cobb FMIC
• CorkSport FMIC
• Ultimate Racing FMIC
• Street Unit TMIC WARNING: read http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...3/#post1927730
• Forge FMIC
• Full Race FMIC
• Sure Charge Tubes WARNING: read http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...3/#post1927730
• HDI FMIC GT2
• FJ Motorsports (previously Protégé Garage (PG)) piping / Godspeed is no longer available, replaced with Treadstone TR1035 FMIC
• OTC FMIC
• TurboXS FMIC
• ATP FMIC
• AutoExe Sports Intercooler (TMIC)
• JBR DISI Intercooler Boost Tubes
• JBR Piping Kit

CP-E TMIC
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1422801781
Available from: CPE Top Mount Intercooler MS3 MS6
MS6 (Yes), MS3 1st Gen (Yes), MS3 2nd Gen (Yes) $399

CorkSport TMIC
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1422801834
Available from: Mazdaspeed 3 TMIC CORKSPORT Top Mount Intercooler 6 MS6 CX7
MS6 (Yes), MS3 1st Gen (Yes), MS3 2nd Gen (Yes) $399.99

Extreme Turbo Systems (ETS) Top Mounted Intercooler (TMIC)
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1422864399
Available from: MazdaSpeed 3 Intercoolers & MazdaSpeed 6 Intercoolers
MS6 (Yes), MS3 1st Gen (Yes), MS3 2nd Gen (Yes) $595 + optional $100 anodising (black, gold, red or blue)

CX Racing (own core now) FMIC
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1422864942
Available from: cxracing.com: Intercooler
MS6 (Not found), MS3 1st Gen (Yes), MS3 2nd Gen (Yes) $248

Treadstone core (TR6 or TR8) plus piping (previously with CX Racing piping) FMIC
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1422268894
Available from: Treadstone Performance Mazda Speed 3 Intercooler Kit | Treadstone Performance INC.
MS6 (Not found), MS3 1st Gen (Not found), MS3 2nd Gen (Yes) $899.95

CP-E FMIC
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1422802302
Available from: Mazda MazdaSPEED3 Gen2 ?Core? Front Mount Intercooler | cp-e?
MS6 (Not found), MS3 1st Gen (Yes), MS3 2nd Gen (Yes) $1,298.97

Cobb FMIC
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1422864479
Available from: COBB Tuning - MAZDASPEED3 Front Mount Intercooler
MS6 (Not found), MS3 1st Gen (Yes), MS3 2nd Gen (Yes) $1,095

CorkSport FMIC
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1422864521
Available from: FMIC Kit | Short Ram Intake
MS6 (Not found), MS3 1st Gen (Yes), MS3 2nd Gen (Yes) $699.99

Ultimate Racing FMIC
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1422865028
Available from: Ultimate Racing Front Mount Intercooler FMIC Mazdaspeed 3 MS3 07-09, Ultimate Racing Front Mount Intercooler FMIC Mazdaspeed 3 MS3 2010+
MS6 (No), MS3 1st Gen (Yes) $999, MS3 2nd Gen (Yes) $885

Street Unit TMIC
WARNING: read http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...3/#post1927730

Full Race FMIC
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1422269157
Available from: Mazdaspeed Vertical Flow Intercooler (2.3 DISI MZR) - Full-Race.com
MS6 (Yes), MS3 1st Gen (Not found), MS3 2nd Gen (Yes) $1,076.17 + optionals: black anodised $150, Charge Pipe Kit $415, Intake (ProStock or EFR) Kit $192.75

Sure Charge Tubes
WARNING: read http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...3/#post1927730

HDI FMIC GT2
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1422269201
Available from: HDI GT2 PRO INTERCOOLER KIT FOR MAZDA MPS6 Mazdaspeed 6 - D2 Power Site
MS6 (Yes), MS3 1st Gen (Yes), MS3 2nd Gen (Yes) $576

FJ Motorsports (previously Protégé Garage (PG)) piping / Godspeed is no longer available, replaced with Treadstone TR1035 FMIC
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1422269264
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1422269330
Available from: Protege Garage Intercooler Piping + Treadstone TR1035 Bundle for Mazdaspeed3 | DS Autosport
MS6 (Not found), MS3 1st Gen (Yes), MS3 2nd Gen (Yes) $688

OTC FMIC
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1422269410
Available from: mps_fmic
MS6 (Yes), MS3 1st Gen (Yes), MS3 2nd Gen (Yes) $565.13 in red, blue, green, yellow, black or white + shipping from South Africa

TurboXS FMIC
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1422864596
Available from: Mazdaspeed 3 Front Mount Intercooler Kit (MS3-FMIC) - TurboXS
MS6 (Not found), MS3 1st Gen (Yes), MS3 2nd Gen (Yes) $999

ATP FMIC
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1422269456
Available from: Front Mount Intercooler Kit for Mazdaspeed3 (2007 thru 2014) : atpturbo.com
MS6 (Production Delayed until early 2007?) $9,999, MS3 1st Gen (Yes) $895, MS3 2nd Gen (Yes) $895

AutoExe Sports Intercooler (TMIC)
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1422801695
Available from: AutoExe Sports Intercooler (TMIC)
MS6 (Yes), MS3 1st Gen (Yes), MS3 2nd Gen (Yes) $2,090

JBR DISI Intercooler Boost Tubes
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1422269504
Available from: Intercooler Boost Tubes - Late Model Mazdaspeed 6 [MS6-BTUBES-ELBO] - $60.00 : James Barone Racing, Custom Fabrication
MS6 (Yes), MS3 1st Gen (Yes), MS3 2nd Gen (Yes) $60

JBR Piping Kit
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1422334029
Available from: JBR Front Mount Intercooler Piping
MS6 (Not found), MS3 1st Gen (out soon), MS3 2nd Gen (Yes) $425

Synapse Piping Kit
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1422864671
Available from: Synapse Piping Kit
MS6 (Not found), MS3 1st Gen (Yes), MS3 2nd Gen (Not found) $749 without TIP, $1,049.05 with TIP, but without Synchronic BOV

Epic Tuning
Available from: previously found on eBay, but not found now
MS6 (Not found), MS3 1st Gen (Yes, previously), MS3 2nd Gen (Not found)

dantes5823 03-01-2012 10:35 AM

Good stuff. Now go into the custom kits or at least piping. :wink1:

rghispanic88 03-07-2012 12:02 PM

fuck, can we cosolidate all the posts? i dont know which one to thank LOL

Raider 03-07-2012 12:12 PM

They look fine to me.

JTMS3 03-07-2012 02:21 PM

I don't know about genones but that ebay piping kit wouldn't work at all for the Pus imo. There isn't any proper bends in any of those pipes to get to the TB and the same goes for the hot pipe. That is unless people want to hack and tack every 3 inches.

Great write-up... You could add the PG piping kit and the Godspeed Type C core, not the best solution but for a DIY IC setup it can be done on the Gen2s without any modding of crashbar/piping.

nindoja 03-07-2012 03:06 PM

Nice writeup. You should add the synapse engineering FMIC. Mazdaspeed3 FMIC Kit for 07 - 09 Mazdaspeed 3: Synapse Engineering Outlet

mattsmzr3 04-10-2012 12:34 AM

now do you have to tune the car with the fmic on cuz i just put a cs tip on and a cpe cai and the cx racing fmic on now and next week im doing the 3in dp and a mazdaspeed catback and the cpe gauge pod holder with prosport evo gauges

Brennan 04-24-2012 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattsmzr3 (Post 1352367)
now do you have to tune the car with the fmic on cuz i just put a cs tip on and a cpe cai and the cx racing fmic on now and next week im doing the 3in dp and a mazdaspeed catback and the cpe gauge pod holder with prosport evo gauges

No, you don't ever have to tune, that's for sissies. Just like upgraded fuel pumps, any kind of monitoring, donating to these forums, and FUCKING SEARCHING. All way overrated.

Vegas3 05-19-2012 06:45 PM

All of this being said, which TMIC's are preferred by members? I am considering the ETS, Corksport, and cp-e, however I don't like that the hood scoop on the Gen 2 rubs on the corksport or that the cp-e is not customizable in color. That being said, since they are all comparable in core size.

dead-zone 06-09-2012 04:18 PM

I found an used CXracing IC for $375. It does say "practicly brend new". I wonder if i should just go for it :/

AZSPEED3 06-09-2012 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dead-zone (Post 1455173)
I found an used CXracing IC for $375. It does say "practicly brend new". I wonder if i should just go for it :/

Do it, post up pics once installed

dead-zone 06-09-2012 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AZSPEED3 (Post 1455247)
Do it, post up pics once installed

The same person is also selling a TS dual port BOV for $185! I might as well get bought of them.

mikie 07-03-2012 05:30 AM

ur fmic
 
does anyone know if the ultimate racing fmic from a gen2 will fit a gen1??

Payne Racing 67 07-03-2012 06:26 AM

The core, piping will have to be modified


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CWP_MS3 09-19-2012 02:27 PM

Discuss Here: http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...thread-106721/


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